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Hello. In case you did not realize my check on Vincent Oge revealed that he is a Cult Leader, Citizen, Disciple, Survivor, Amnesiac
I will check Alexandre Petion tonight unless you have other ideas.
I will check Alexandre Petion tonight unless you have other ideas.
Ghede- Join date : 2013-10-30
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We are doing good so far. I was sure then even if Toussant gets pressured on L-3, you, me and Catherine would do our best in order to not get him lynched and reveal himself. You might gat an importaint job later H-ville, if you want to win yourself as Ghost. Are you prepared to listen to our proposal?
Agassou- Join date : 2013-10-30
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I am Now Here, I Understood your feedback, Although I am sadden By your citizen Lynch, I think it is important at the same time, With this new info though we can start to see who is what, I do have very important information regarding mason though.
My night Feedback: I received a protective charm. While it is unfortunate that I gotten It as neutral. It is vital Info that I will Leave in my Last will as well As let you Know. This confirms one mason role that is in Play.
Ghede, Your lurking was somewhat troublesome but also was informative, We had 2 Trains, One on you and one on Boussant. I think we need to look at who was stating reason vs simply sheeping.
Worst case we have right now is 2 cults on each, however did were not able to discuss anything yet. Tomorrow will be of vital importance.
Another concern I have as of right now. The neutral Killer...
No douse, No bounty, No kill...
I see several options that could of happened.
A) Took No action
B) SK (if it is that), hit Cult Leader
C) Did not submit Night action
That being said, I just got Home from work, So I Might be around for a bit.
However it is late, I am interested in hearing the proposal Though.
A few suggestions coming tomorrow, I will Claim Mind Meld again. However wait for feedbacks.
I do kinda suggest we do reads on everyone that we have seen/gathered.
My night Feedback: I received a protective charm. While it is unfortunate that I gotten It as neutral. It is vital Info that I will Leave in my Last will as well As let you Know. This confirms one mason role that is in Play.
Ghede, Your lurking was somewhat troublesome but also was informative, We had 2 Trains, One on you and one on Boussant. I think we need to look at who was stating reason vs simply sheeping.
Worst case we have right now is 2 cults on each, however did were not able to discuss anything yet. Tomorrow will be of vital importance.
Another concern I have as of right now. The neutral Killer...
No douse, No bounty, No kill...
I see several options that could of happened.
A) Took No action
B) SK (if it is that), hit Cult Leader
C) Did not submit Night action
That being said, I just got Home from work, So I Might be around for a bit.
However it is late, I am interested in hearing the proposal Though.
A few suggestions coming tomorrow, I will Claim Mind Meld again. However wait for feedbacks.
I do kinda suggest we do reads on everyone that we have seen/gathered.
Legba- Join date : 2013-10-30
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I see... This is indeed a valuable information. I understand why you would want to hide it from anyone except for us.
About that proposal... I need to wait for Toussant first and see what he can suggest so that we can formulate our plan for Day 3.
About that proposal... I need to wait for Toussant first and see what he can suggest so that we can formulate our plan for Day 3.
Agassou- Join date : 2013-10-30
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I did get the coding and understood what you were saying, That was kinda My plan for it, I am thinking he is Truly a citizen.
Legba- Join date : 2013-10-30
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Should I claim my role tomorrow or should I try to hide and say I am a citizen who is trying to get killed? Maybe Hedouville can pretend he is an investigator with my results.
Ghede- Join date : 2013-10-30
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Hedouville, I trust you as a neutral Ghost. I am sure that you are Ghost because we managed to crack you up under the large amount of pressure. Now then, instead of a part-time cooperation, will you be happy cooperating with us fully? If you promise to NOT disclose any of the current information from this nigth chat, we will promise that we'll do our best to help you win.
What I am going to tell you right now is going to make your balls grow. Literally. Are you ready to listen to me and keep your promise?
What I am going to tell you right now is going to make your balls grow. Literally. Are you ready to listen to me and keep your promise?
Agassou- Join date : 2013-10-30
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Its tough to say, I do have an even more elaborate idea, Claim Sheriff. While It may not be as confirmable, it could be convincing enough to draw them Away. That is, if there are no Witch Claims. Citizen Seems More suspicious because of Melding.Ghede wrote:Should I claim my role tomorrow or should I try to hide and say I am a citizen who is trying to get killed? Maybe Hedouville can pretend he is an investigator with my results.
I think Its in best interest to claim Investigator because it will Cause one of 2 things
1) cult to Kill you because we will constantly force to have you give feedbacks.
2) Cult keeps You Alive To Try to Find Roles.
Another Idea Is claim who you visit and they claim role, They will Be forced to claim In their Pairing, Then I can Confirm or deny. If they Claim TPR, they will also be forced to give feedbacks. Come the end of it, we can start chaining actions to force cult into a corner. Any Citizen Roles Found, Will be forced to Claim Citizen, We can then Send sheriff to confirm them, Anything outside of their Pairing=Lynch
Legba- Join date : 2013-10-30
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I am Listening. If it will help me get my goal while helping you guys, I'm all for it.Agassou wrote:Hedouville, I trust you as a neutral Ghost. I am sure that you are Ghost because we managed to crack you up under the large amount of pressure. Now then, instead of a part-time cooperation, will you be happy cooperating with us fully? If you promise to NOT disclose any of the current information from this nigth chat, we will promise that we'll do our best to help you win.
What I am going to tell you right now is going to make your balls grow. Literally. Are you ready to listen to me and keep your promise?
Legba- Join date : 2013-10-30
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I do Have to say I am Slightly tired, So if I am Not here When you post It, It is Because I fell Asleep, I have Mid-shift Tomorrow. So I might not Be around 100%. But I will be awake to make a quick Check-in before I head to Work.
Legba- Join date : 2013-10-30
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I am not the Sheriff.
I am the Haitian Cult Leader, and I managed to succesfully convert Toussant'D Overturer to my cause. Now then, there are 2 different ways for you to win this game. First way is to allow yourself be lynched at day or be killed at night. The second way for you to win is to be recruited by us and turned into Possessor, which you allow you to control Town PRs.
Which path will you prefer, Hedouville?
I am the Haitian Cult Leader, and I managed to succesfully convert Toussant'D Overturer to my cause. Now then, there are 2 different ways for you to win this game. First way is to allow yourself be lynched at day or be killed at night. The second way for you to win is to be recruited by us and turned into Possessor, which you allow you to control Town PRs.
Which path will you prefer, Hedouville?
Agassou- Join date : 2013-10-30
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Just wow, I mean seriously. Well the person you Convert is Obvious, Now while I could Be converted, I think I could cause More mayhem By remain Ghost I could be your Extra vote Come need it. By taking Someone, However This Makes My Job rather Easier, Because while I do Only need to see the opposing faction Lose, Knowing I have your backing will be beneficial.Agassou wrote:I am not the Sheriff.
I am the Haitian Cult Leader, and I managed to succesfully convert Toussant'D Overturer to my cause. Now then, there are 2 different ways for you to win this game. First way is to allow yourself be lynched at day or be killed at night. The second way for you to win is to be recruited by us and turned into Possessor, which you allow you to control Town PRs.
Which path will you prefer, Hedouville?
However there also comes great risk, I could at any time be converted to the other. We are Put into Catch 22. Converting Me may Be a good idea But getting A lynch On me Would be better because of My Ability to Take control. Plus I can Give you guys Town outlooks. I think I have Made enough Mayhem and WIFOM That I won't be converted By them. I am an Active Player, But Not town Leader. I think Tomorrow we could go On Oger because of his "Peiner is scum" and then Goes on boussant Train. Tomorrow We have the Best Option To go For another Train, Apparently I take it you Were not attacked Either.
I just Need to Figure out now how to Take this, I am all for Siding with you. Now it becomes a battle of Town Vs You Vs Cult....
I think I might be able to WIFOM Mason was in chat, any ideas?
I think If you try to early Train Me, The Melder Will Catch On.
I do have to get some sleep, So If you guys would like to discuss plans and everything While I am Out, Feel Free. I will check In and look at the discussion and Give Input.
Going forward. I Have No reason To out You Guys early On. I'm thinking tomorrow I reverse The Melding saying you were melded with me or You claim It. That way, they will understand That is is near impossible for me to say We are Both scum Buddies or something, I suggest We keep peiner, He is obvious Citizen and Will be easy to sheep.
I just need to hear what you guys think i should say about Melding Tomorrow. My suggestion is Claim you and Me and Keep 3rd Hidden as WIFOM. I think If you are to recruit me, I should be near last because of how much more Power I have as A ghost. Maybe Even, I Could Fake Claim A feedback...
So many options to do.
However we do need to find a way to keep in touch, I got an Idea, Who you convert next You use the bolding of names again. If there is any death coming from Cult, I might be able to Fake Claim TPR and get a Lynch going.
Legba- Join date : 2013-10-30
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Another Idea is WIFOM That I'm A Mason Now, I have pretty much claimed every Role That Nobody Really Knows, I Have been Trying To Make It seem Like I'm A Mason-Type Role So Cult Will be forced To Kill Me.
Really I would Live to See oger Culted and see if he legit AFKs, But thats More of A Lolz type thing.
Really I would Live to See oger Culted and see if he legit AFKs, But thats More of A Lolz type thing.
Legba- Join date : 2013-10-30
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This is very exciting. I wonder if the MD will meld us again tomorrow. I agree that Charles and Hedou should claim tomorrow or at least one of you not me.
Ghede- Join date : 2013-10-30
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Yeah, I will probably say that I was melded with Hedouville, but you should stay silent, Toussant. They'l think that the third person was someone else. I believe that Hedouville can claim himself any Town PR he wants, becuase the Investigator is no longer a threat. However, do not expect an easy win. This is going to be a long game, and we don't know how the other cult would move. I can also claim myself any role I want during the day (except for Citizen of course), since they are already suscpecting that a Sheriff claim is bad. I'll probably claim myself as Mind Melder if nessessary. Even if Catherine dies, they will still believe me, because i tried to cover her. But that's only if I become pressued. And long as there are no pressure, there won't be any need in claiming our roles either. Though if you find anything suscpicous about Alexandre, be sure to reveal it to everyone - they are aware that you could be an investigative role.
There are people much scummer than us - we can make the town to lynch Anacona, Alexandre or anyone else should we deem nessesary.
There are people much scummer than us - we can make the town to lynch Anacona, Alexandre or anyone else should we deem nessesary.
Agassou- Join date : 2013-10-30
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Ok I couldn't Sleep so I checked in, Potential Plan, I could Claim Invest, Forcing Cult To never convert me because I would have to give Feedback Every Day. As Well As who I check. This would force a hand of them to Kill me.
I will try to deem It that You Claimed TPR Sheriff to me and you check Tousant. I will say I was Invest and Checked you.
I think What we need to do is have Me claim A role where I Can avoid Conversion, But at the same time, Cause the Bus Driver/Doc To avoid Me.
I think You Guys should discuss plans a Bit in here for me so I/We Have a Plan Going Forward.
I Am thinking with my Hidden Feedback Masons will trust me...
I need time to think overall, I would Like to hear From You Guys any suggestions and Ideas.
I have some ideas But I seriously Need Sleep XD
Quick Ideas: Fake Feedback Claim, Claim Each Others Roles (non-cult), too tired to think of more off-hand overall...
I think Tous Claim Of invest or My claim of Invest is best way to go, Either way it will force a Hand to Be played.
I will try to deem It that You Claimed TPR Sheriff to me and you check Tousant. I will say I was Invest and Checked you.
I think What we need to do is have Me claim A role where I Can avoid Conversion, But at the same time, Cause the Bus Driver/Doc To avoid Me.
I think You Guys should discuss plans a Bit in here for me so I/We Have a Plan Going Forward.
I Am thinking with my Hidden Feedback Masons will trust me...
I need time to think overall, I would Like to hear From You Guys any suggestions and Ideas.
I have some ideas But I seriously Need Sleep XD
Quick Ideas: Fake Feedback Claim, Claim Each Others Roles (non-cult), too tired to think of more off-hand overall...
I think Tous Claim Of invest or My claim of Invest is best way to go, Either way it will force a Hand to Be played.
Legba- Join date : 2013-10-30
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I want to Mention I am considering Alexander Might Be Mason Or at Least TPR. He might Be a good convert Target, but at same time, Masons is what I fear for you guys now.
Legba- Join date : 2013-10-30
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Also One final Thing, Anouca should Be priority Tomorrow, I think If i Come On, I will Say "I got Feedback" and vote Him, You Should claim the Mind Meld first.
What You Guys Think?
What You Guys Think?
Legba- Join date : 2013-10-30
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I think that the ideal plan for Hedouville is to counterclaim any Town PR that would try to claim thenselves during Day 3. For example if someone claims doctor, you can claim yourself a doctor as well, and they will believe you over a Town PR because you were in mind meld chat with us and lynch the doctor. Even if they lynch you afterwards and you flip Ghost, we can always go away with excuse like "But he really claimed himself as Doctor to us in night chat!"
Same goes with any other role claim except for Bus Driver or Mind Melder. Bus Driver should be converted. Mind Melder needs to DIE before town gets any good feed from her. Mason claims are much more risky, but you actions will definitely cause the two Masons to reveal thenselves. Just watch out for role feedbacks.
Same goes with any other role claim except for Bus Driver or Mind Melder. Bus Driver should be converted. Mind Melder needs to DIE before town gets any good feed from her. Mason claims are much more risky, but you actions will definitely cause the two Masons to reveal thenselves. Just watch out for role feedbacks.
Agassou- Join date : 2013-10-30
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I believe that there could be also a connection between Galbaud and Peinier. Either they are both masons, or they are both cult master and recruit. Might be my imagination, but it is something you should keep in mind. I have a feeling that they could be in touch with each other, just like we do right now. Maybe you should check one of then instead?
Agassou- Join date : 2013-10-30
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Oh, yeah, H-ville, this might be difficult for you, but it is also imprortant. If you die and then possess a person afterwards, do not just blindly use your usual posting stile with those stupid pictures. Instead of doing that, try to imitate your victim's posting style. That way the town will not suspect that your victim becomes possessed, and you can use that situation in your favor by defending us, or provoking the town into lyching your victim.
Remember this: you possession takes one vote away from town and adds one vote to our side! With this strategy, our actual number can reach up to 5 votes, which will be enough to form a majority in the late-game.
But we can hoard about 4 votes all together even right now. The fourth vote will come from Mind Melder, who still thinks that all three of us are town. When that many people come and speak up, everyone else will listen and follow us. That is our advantage and it is imperative that we keep it as it is right now.
And don't forget to change your last wills! Make sure that people get to believe that we are town-sided, even after one of us dies.
Remember this: you possession takes one vote away from town and adds one vote to our side! With this strategy, our actual number can reach up to 5 votes, which will be enough to form a majority in the late-game.
But we can hoard about 4 votes all together even right now. The fourth vote will come from Mind Melder, who still thinks that all three of us are town. When that many people come and speak up, everyone else will listen and follow us. That is our advantage and it is imperative that we keep it as it is right now.
And don't forget to change your last wills! Make sure that people get to believe that we are town-sided, even after one of us dies.
Agassou- Join date : 2013-10-30
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I could see a mason connection. It would explain why I got a charm vs just about anyone else. Peiner seems to be a mere sheeper so he seems like just a citizen. However I need to Look through Chats and see if I can find any more roles/hints. Mind Melder is obvious, Bus Driver is semi-obvious (for those who watched magic school bus).
I think Tomorrow I will try to make it sound like I'm unconvertible to deter the cult, It seems like my plan has worked so far. If you Kinda Noticed I have been trying to personify that I Might be a mason...
I think Tomorrow I will try to make it sound like I'm unconvertible to deter the cult, It seems like my plan has worked so far. If you Kinda Noticed I have been trying to personify that I Might be a mason...
Legba- Join date : 2013-10-30
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That Will do, I do have to Head to work. If neutral Killer Kills me, I won't even Hide during first possession. The other 2 time I will do most likely mid to late game.
Legba- Join date : 2013-10-30
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Oh, yeah, I'll warn you in advance. This might be probably the last time we'll talk with each other, so I'm going to be ahead at let you know who will be converted by me next. My target will be decided just like the last time when you thought I was Sheriff.
So as usual, look for bolded names in my last post. The last bolded name that is in that post will be my next target for conversion. For example if I bolded the name of player A in post #96, then bolded the name of player B in post #99, then it means I changed my decision and wanted to convert player B instead of player A. If I put two bolded names in a single post, then the bolded name that came last will be my chosen target.
Then, after the night has ended, I will post one of those two greetings:
Greetings again, everyone. Charles Leclerc is at your service. - my conversion has FAILED
Bonjour to you, everyone. Charles Leclerc is at your service. - my conversion was SUCCESSFUL
Alternatively I can choose to send Toussant to kill my target instead. If you see a kill on my target, then that was my order. Otherwise my greeting will be the same if I fail to kill my target.
Note that Toussant never had any idea who could be the cult leader until the end of Day 2. So I had to do my best and defend hi mas if I was sure that he is town. The same thing will happen to my future targets - they will learn my identity only during a night conversation. So until then, do you best to not allow then to be found early.
So as usual, look for bolded names in my last post. The last bolded name that is in that post will be my next target for conversion. For example if I bolded the name of player A in post #96, then bolded the name of player B in post #99, then it means I changed my decision and wanted to convert player B instead of player A. If I put two bolded names in a single post, then the bolded name that came last will be my chosen target.
Then, after the night has ended, I will post one of those two greetings:
Greetings again, everyone. Charles Leclerc is at your service. - my conversion has FAILED
Bonjour to you, everyone. Charles Leclerc is at your service. - my conversion was SUCCESSFUL
Alternatively I can choose to send Toussant to kill my target instead. If you see a kill on my target, then that was my order. Otherwise my greeting will be the same if I fail to kill my target.
Note that Toussant never had any idea who could be the cult leader until the end of Day 2. So I had to do my best and defend hi mas if I was sure that he is town. The same thing will happen to my future targets - they will learn my identity only during a night conversation. So until then, do you best to not allow then to be found early.
Agassou- Join date : 2013-10-30
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Yes I did not learn the cult leader until I saw Charles post his own name in the night chat.
Ghede- Join date : 2013-10-30
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