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Hello everyone!

So we are against most likely. Bus Driver, Blackmailer, 2 Couriers, 1 lookout, and 1 detective.

whats the plan for day one. its mandatory lynch. i was thinkning trying go claim veteran an find the real vet or if the real one claims say everyone on lynch train for vet

What happens though if we kill the vet? Are we able to kill the night or will there be no kills then?

Wait nevermind read the setup. Votes for the neutral will be ignored.

-The first day will be a mandatory lynch day. All players must vote. All votes for the neutral will be ignored on this day. In the event of a tie the day will be extended and all players will vote on the tie breaker. This vote will not require a majority.

well thats a bunch of bull shit. but benifits us at same time. if vet goes day one reveal just bus yourself with veteran.

also appley claims to be part of a faction be on the llokout for his claim

Well I am guessing that we have a lookout for the Bloods faction so we need to make sure to watch for any lookout claims. That is what we are trying to find. Anyone who hints at following people are most likely our enemy.

Gotta cut my grass. Be back in an hour.

I am back. I see Carolina hasn't come on yet. Oh well.

Who do you think our greatest enemy is the bd or blackmailer? I just think the bd because he can control kills for his faction with his bussings.

hmmm i think its the bus driver as well becasue of his redirections

blackmailr can be annoying but it only causes rb

Hi guys, good luck and let's win this.

Here's my thoughts:

I. CLAIMS

During the day, I believe one of the Surenos will step up as a representative. With a bus driver, they can redirect a kill so whoever steps up will be effectively safe. This way, the courier for the crips will be able to tell him who they can message, effectively setting up a cross-team chat.

There will be a mandatory lynch, so if more than one team claims a representative, it may be in our interest to claim one as well, for the same reasons. We may also want to have someone claim representation for another team, and try to get messages meant for an opponent. We could do both even, but people are probably going to want to lynch someone who claims tomorrow, so the more people who claim, the more risk of a lynching.

The other side of that coin is, people aren't going to want to reveal which side they're on, so they'll be loathe to vote on people who claim factions. For this reason, I believe that unless voting for someone who claims vet, only people who claim should vote to lynch

We should decide tonight under what conditions we should reveal, who should do so, and which faction we should claim.

WHO
Since we've got the only role that stops night action, we can have pretty much anyone claim without worrying about losing their night abilities. Still, early on, communication will be important, but late game the investigatives and powers will be crucial. That's why I believe I should claim if anyone, because even if I don't get lynched, I'll be a bigger target in the long run.

CONDITIONS/ WHICH FACTION
Like I said, I think it's likely that the Surenos would claim. If NOBODY claims for say, the first half of the day, I think it would be smart to claim Surenos. The reasons are three-fold: 1) It's plausible, BECAUSE they have a bus driver, which protects the claimer from a possible Bloods night kill; 2) If the claimer ends up being lynched, we're a man down but we've got the kill AND a better idea of who our allies are. 3) It will make it more difficult for the Crips to communicate with the real Surenos. Just as well, if the Surenos do counter-claim, it still throws off communication. In the case of a counter-claim, I wouldn't vote to lynch the claimer, because that would prove that we were lying.

Claiming Crips has the same benefits,aside from the plausibility of the bus driver. We may want to consider this option if the Surenos claim early and the Crips do NOT claim.

Claiming ourselves can set up a potential line of communication, but only if the Bloods trust us enough to do so. It can also reveal some of our enemies, should they choose to lynch us.

I think claiming vet will be hazardous, precisely because votes for the vet will be ignored. That way, people can vote for vet-claimers and see if they're lying. Conversely, I think we SHOULD put pressure on any vet claimers. I don't really see any advantage to claiming Bloods, but that doesn't mean there aren't any. Speak up if you think of anything.

II. ROLES
Not much to say here. I think what's said is accurate, it's likely 1 lookout and 1 detective on each team, so detectives are probably our enemy, lookouts 50/50 to be friendly. If we want to confirm a blood, we can ask them to fake-RB one of us. Alternatively, we can ask their courier to send us a message, but that doesn't really confirm anything so nevermind. In the case of blackmailings, I think for the most part it's probably wise to complete the tasks.

III. NIGHT ACTIONS
I guess we'll want to try to message potential bloods, and track/block potential enemies. HERPDERP

IV. CODES
Should we set up a code to use during day chat? It could be useful, though IIRC it has to be approved.


Cool that's my long-ass start of the game post

Wow very nice post reading it now

Does everyone get to use their night action on Night 0 or is it just a talk session for planning?

N0 is just a talk session

Ok then yes it would be best for a claim on the Surenos. Crips if they end up claiming right away.

I think if the Surenos try to do what we will do and claim an opposing faction they will probably actually claim bloods over us. They know that if they claim Nortenos that they can be blocked from their actions.

Also we have to take into consideration that anyone who goes up to claim is going to be the courier. The Bloods and Crips can afford sending their DD/Blackmailer for the representative, but the Surenos won't send their bus driver up for sure.

Nortenos Leader wrote:I think if the Surenos try to do what we will do and claim an opposing faction they will probably actually claim bloods over us. They know that if they claim Nortenos that they can be blocked from their actions.

Good call, we'll have to be especially wary of Bloods claims.

Nortenos Leader wrote:Also we have to take into consideration that anyone who goes up to claim is going to be the courier. The Bloods and Crips can afford sending their DD/Blackmailer for the representative, but the Surenos won't send their bus driver up for sure.

This will become most relevant in night actions. If we claim Surenos, I think blocking a Surenos courier would be better than a Crips courier/bmer, especially if the Crips try to message


Also I just read that all players must vote on the first day. That makes things interesting.

We shouldn't all vote on the same target though. We have to keep it spaced out, but we have to be careful not to look like we are buddying anyone. We can give the bloods a reaction that they think we are an enemy yet we can't look like we are all together. This will be fun with voting.

We should use the detective to search for the bus driver: detective sees both targets, and BD is the only role that can target two players. Basically, we should be targeting suspected Surenos.

so in that case i am to no be the one to come up and claim?

im wondering if anyones gonna do "mass role call"

if anyone does one of us says start with you

as for our representative i think the courriour should speak for us due to how escort and detective are valued here